Talk:The Three Graces (sculpture)

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  • Added this (slightly modified) from a essay I wrote in May of 2005, if anyone has any specific information relating to the Baroque styles used in the piece or the different versions, please add it. Also if anyone wants to correct my slightly bizarre grasp of English grammar or 'wikify' the piece more competantly than I've done - feel free :)

--Inexplicable 12:22, May 30, 2005 (UTC)

(1) The images in this article are listed as Public Domain, despite the fact that they don't look nearly old enough for the copyrights to have expired.
(2) This article should probably be titled The Three Graces (Canova sculpture), leaving the door open for articles like The Three Graces (Thorvaldsen sculpture) etc. Lee M 01:13, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Unless the photographer explicitly placed those images in the public domain, they aren't tagged properly. Since the sculpture depicted is in the public domain, it is possible to make public-domain photographs of it, but since such photographs involve creative effort, they are not automatically in the public domain. --Carnildo 07:11, 23 Jun 2005 UTC)

It's quite possible I tagged the photos wrong, I was under the impresson that because they depicted art in the PD, they were by proxy. So I guess we better start looking for some we're sure of? These ones were off the Hermitage web-site and the V&A, neither site made any mention of specific copyright on the pictures. Cheers. --Inexplicable 10:31, July 17, 2005 (UTC)

Photographs of two-dimensional artwork (such as paintings) are in the public domain "by proxy" if the image is as accurate a copy of the original as possible, leaving no creative input by the photographer. Photographs of three-dimensional artwork cannot be in the public domain "by proxy" because a two-dimensional reproduction cannot be perfectly accurate: the photographer always has creative input, by selecting such things as the angle to photograph from, or the lighting used. --Carnildo 19:53, 18 July 2005 (UTC)[]

This is all very well and good, I understand the need for correct tagging etc. BUT to not have a photographic representation of a sculpture in an encylopedic article is just daft. I've had a poke around the web but can't find a photo that is not copyright in some way. Could someone slightly more experinced in finding PD images of art help out? I really think this article needs a photo. Thanks. --Inexplicable 10:37, 18 October 2005 (UTC)[]


Well, the second version is currently in Edinburgh, where I happen to live. I think it's highly unlikely that I'll be allowed to photograph it, but I'll take a look. Maccoinnich 12:31, 16 December 2005 (UTC)[]

I shot several angles of this piece in 1999 at Hermitage. Feel free to use however- I made the rights Copy Left. Posted to commons, these were the two best angles. Let me know if there are other articles needing Canova shots- I have similar sorts of 360 degree shots from Louvre and Borghese Gallery. I shall try and upload everything but it is tedious and if folks could indicate some sense of priorities that would be helpful. --User:MakThorpe 12 Feb 2006

Thanks a lot Mark, I've put the pictures 'in' the article. I think that'll do very nicely for the moment. I'll update this article when I get a chance! --Inexplicable 12:50, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[]

We never got to the Canova museum in italy, and I am afraid these shots were not that great. If you are doing other italian or french sculptors, I have a huge cache of pictures to be uploaded. Lots and lots of Roman, some greek, some contemporary spanish. drop a note of the sculptor examples needed, and I'll see what I have. -Mak Thorpe 23:26, 14 April 2006 (UTC)[]

History of the Three Graces sculpture in the V&A[edit]

The article says that the Three Graces sculpture was acquired for the nation by the V&A and the National Gallery of Scotland. When did this happen. I remember seeing the statue at Woburn Abbey when I was a child in the fifties. For a while the work stood outdoors in a courtyard, perhaps 1957...? Was that in preparation of its removal to the national collections perhaps. Everybody got to be somewhere! (talk) 16:11, 5 February 2015 (UTC)[]